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    If a song sounds a bit Oasisy but a s**t version of Supersonic, I just bin it off, reveals Noel Gallagher

    “I’VE been thrown out of pubs with Paul Weller, hung out with Neil Young and played with Paul McCartney.”Sitting in the live room of his north London Lone Star studio, Noel Gallagher is recalling meeting his heroes.
    Fans of Noel Gallagher’s High Flying Birds should not be expecting a nod to the frontman’s previous life in OasisCredit: Matt Crockett
    Sitting in the live room of his north London Lone Star studio, Noel Gallagher is recalling meeting his heroes… from Paul McCartney to Bruce SpringsteenCredit: Matt Crockett
    “When I first met them though, I was like, ‘F***! I’ve just met one of The Beatles’. I used to have posters of them on my wall. But they’re just geezers, like me.
    “Like Bono, he gets so much bloody stick but he’s brilliant. And the stories he tells. I went to his book launch thing with my kids as they’ve known him since they were all babies.
    “It was very theatrical. At one point, he was dancing on a table doing opera. Donovan lent in and went, ‘Dad, I think he’s lost it’. I was like, ‘Yes, but he’s amazing’. It was great.
    “British people don’t like people who are successful. Simple as that. You can be the nicest guy in the world, but if you’re a f***ing multimillionaire rock star people automatically think you’re a c***. So, if you can rise above that, you’re all right.
    “When I met Bruce Springsteen, he was great. And apart from Bob Dylan, I think I’ve met everyone who I really admire, who is alive. I’ve been so f***ing lucky.
    “Like with Johnny Marr. This is the third time he’s played on one of my albums. I say to him, ‘Mate, if you keep picking up the phone, I’m going to keep calling you’.
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    “But the fanboy thing has worn off with him. They’re not like wizards and they don’t come from another planet. They’re just extra-ordinarily talented guys in bands. Like me.”
    It’s the second part of my chat with Noel Gallagher, and the former Oasis star is discussing his brilliant fourth High Flying Birds album, Council Skies.
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    Former Smiths guitarist Marr plays on three tracks, including first single Pretty Boy, Council Skies and Open The Door, See What You Find.
    “Johnny won’t let you send him the track up front for any of them,” says Noel. “He’ll come down, set up his equipment, talk at a hundred miles an hour about City, cars and music, and then he straps the guitar on, listens to the track for the first time and starts playing along.
    “There was a great moment doing Pretty Boy, where I was sitting in the back room with the door open. I don’t sit there and watch him — it would freak me out if someone did that to me. When he hits on a part, we will both go, ‘That’s it’ and he works and works on it. And when I heard what he did to that track, I went, ‘That’s f***ing insane’.”
    Produced by Noel with long-time collaborator Paul “Strangeboy” Stacey, Council Skies is Noel’s first album in six years and sees the guitarist again work with orchestral arranger Rosie Danvers on some of the tracks at Abbey Road.
    Noel says: “I never tell her what to do — she just comes here and she gets it. The days we go into Abbey Road is always a great thing for me, as a Beatles fan. When I hear the orchestra, and what they do to my music, it’s really moving.”
    Noel’s studio is like an Aladdin’s Cave of football and music memorabilia, including an old neon pink Top Of The Pops sign.
    He’s excited to have a new record coming out and proud of the music he’s made for it.
    “People make up their own mind but, as an album, I think it’s really strong,” he tells me. “It’s the best one I’ve done so far for sure, but what I do hope is that people listen to it as an album.”
    Standout tracks include the dreamy Dead To The World, Love Is A Rich Man, the uplifting Think Of A Number, Open The Door and the Talk Tonight-ish Trying To Find A World That’s Been And Gone.
    Thinking too deeply
    He says: “Yeah, it’s got the same kind of chords. That was written in the lockdown when I was thinking, ‘What’s going to be left on the other side of this?’ Maybe I was thinking too deeply at the time because Brexit happened at the same time.
    “Usually, if I’m writing a song and it starts to sound a bit Oasisy, I’ll get to the chorus and go, ‘It just sounds like a s**t version of Little By Little or Supersonic’ and I bin it off.
    “But when I got to the chorus of Easy Now, I thought it was f***ing great. This is great. I love the song. But when I got this one, I was like, F***ing hell, this is going to be great. I will never get bored of that song. It’s so beautiful.”
    Title track Council Skies is “about trying to find beauty on a council estate” and Noel originally wanted a collage of striking council estates in Manchester before settling on the old site of Maine Road, former home to Noel’s beloved Man City and also home of an old council estate.
    He says: “We got [legendary music photographer] Kevin Cummins to do the photos because he’s local and it was on a weekday at the local school on the estate.
    “I got dragged into the school by the teachers and paraded around the school, like an artefact. I had me pictures done with the kids. But it felt like a good idea.
    “Maine Road is symbolic — it’s where I grew up and where Oasis played their [1996] seminal gigs.”
    Thinking about which young band could be the next Oasis, Noel says the music industry has changed so much now that there might not be a new band that comes up the same way.
    “They’re too obsessed with YouTube rather than going to gigs to find the next big thing,” he says.
    “I know people in A&R and all they care about is YouTube. There’s this lad Andrew Cushin and he’s good. But the first thing the business people said was, ‘He’s not on YouTube’.
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    “But if we had asked a load of kids in 1993 what was going to be the next big thing, they wouldn’t have come up with Oasis. Not a chance. People don’t know what they want.
    “You would have never earmarked a load of f***ing guys from a council estate. One of them bald and two f***ing brothers always arguing.
    “You’d never say they were going to change the world. And that’s what I mean. You can’t ‘focus group’ that — it just explodes out of nowhere.”
    Unfortunately for fans, it doesn’t look like an Oasis reunion is on the cards.
    In yesterday’s interview, Noel quashed fans dreams for a reunion, declaring: “Liam is full of s**t. He knows as well as I do that he doesn’t want it.”
    He’s also not a fan of a new “lost” Oasis album generated by AI.
    He says: “Someone sent me those Oasis AI songs — well, it was called AISIS. And I thought, ‘What’s the point of this?’ It’s as pointless as the people who make it. Then people are showing me Ringo Starr singing She’s Electric and Freddie Mercury singing Don’t Look Back In Anger. If that’s how you spend your lunch break, f***ing good on you.
    “But there’s no soul to it, no feeling. I’ve seen that thing where lyrics are written by AI. And they are f***ing worse than mine. But I have no doubt that in the next ten years, record companies won’t employ songwriters — they’ll employ machines to write for the next f***wit popstar that comes along.
    “I guarantee you that record labels are working on the technology. They’ll be churning that f***ing s**t out and all music will end up the same. You won’t know who’s singing.”
    In yesterday’s interview, Noel quashed fans dreams for a reunion, declaring: ‘Liam is full of s**t. He knows as well as I do that he doesn’t want it’Credit: Getty
    Noel’s High Flying Birds kick off their tour in Seattle, with UK dates in July.Credit: Getty
    What about the Abba hologram shows? Is it something he’d consider when he’s too old to tour?
    He says: “Anais (his daughter) went to the Abba show — she said I should go. Apparently, it’s amazing. And I do like a few of the tunes — ABBA Gold is amazing.
    “Each band to their own but for me when it’s done, it’s done. The way the music business is now, nothing can die — nothing that sells can ever die. I have no doubt they’ll be working on it for David Bowie or The Beatles, but for me, when I can’t talk any more I’ll go away.”
    Tonight, Noel’s High Flying Birds kick off their tour in Seattle, with UK dates in July.
    Noel says: “We start in America, which has worked well, because it’s all seated there — you can really get into what you are doing as a band.
    “For the big gigs in the summer, I’ll play all the new songs first before it goes dark.
    “By the time I get to the winter arena shows, we’ll have nailed the show and the production.
    “It was a conscious decision to add the big production last. My management think I’m crazy but my biggest gigs are in England. And the biggest production is in England. So, by the time we get to England, we’ll be flying.
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    “But the gig I’m most looking forward to is Dublin with the Happy Mondays, which in another era, would have involved fatalities.”
    Council Skies is out today.
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    Klaudia Gawlas is on fire with this fabulous selection of techno

    KLAUDIA GAWLAS is another amazing German DJ / producer setting fire to the techno scene all over the world.Over the last decade she  has bestowed on us a myriad  of rocking tracks across some of the most celebrated labels such as Joseph Capriati’s Redimension, Coyu’s Suara and Dubfire’s SCI+TEC.
    Her second release on Dubfire’s imprint, Fireball has just dropped.  The three track EP is another triumph of percussive brilliance from the Illusion Recordings boss.
    We caught up with her and she’s compiled a selection of tracks that will rock your weekend. She told us:
    “These are a selection of tracks that I have played and continue to play in my sets. Always setting you up for a weekend! Some of them are older, but they are outstanding tracks that will always be timeless. No.5 in the selection was my first ever vinyl, so that’s an essential listen for me.”
    Yves Deruyter – On A Mission
    “I play many tracks lately from Yves Deruyter in every set and I have to say the energy on the floor is amazing. Last summer season I dropped some of them and it was a total hands up moment. I love this rave style and all Yves’s productions are high quality. A nice journey by this legend.”
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    Tomaz vs Filterheadz – Sunshine
    “There are some new remixes out from Coyu which I love but I have to list the original here. This was a masterpiece and I remember this was the most played vinyl in my case. You can see it as it’s so worn on the cover from being taken all over the world.”
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    Enrico Sangiuliano & Charlotte de Witte – Reflection (Original Mix) [NTZ007]
    “What a nice idea to do a collectin of 9-0 tracks. The label called NineToZero run by Enrico Sangiuliano delivers with every release. So this is number 7 and I love it. The siren ised is like a calling for a party!”
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    Frankyeffe – Touch Me [Spannung]
    “This track from the Italian producer Frankyeffe is a peak time favourite. It’s a trance track really but just right in time to catch the zeitgeist of the rave sound we hear today. Great track, lots of power and perfect for when you need to make the dancefloor go crazy!”
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    Tiga & Zyntherius – Sunglasses @ Night (Chris Liebing Remix)
    “This was my first ever vinyl record that I bought it in Duluth, Minnesota in a second hand shop when I was living and studying there for a year. It was in 2002, and I decided to start a collection of vinyls with tracks I love. So, I bought this one and later started to DJ. Maybe this record is one of my important ones in my life. It has still a special place in my studio.”
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    Plastikman – Spastik
    “A timeless track from the 90´s. Still love that one and I play it forever here and there in my sets. I remember this was an outstanding tune and I think every techno lover knows this one.”
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    Tomaz vs. Filterheadz – I Love Techno
    “Also, a bit of an older one, but I found this in a mall record store in my hometown and I love the atmospheric sounds in the background. A nice rolling track. I used to listen to this a lot during the day, to give me some energy and power! It worked.”
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    Marco Faraone & Flug – Gino Is Alive [UNCAGEX048]
    “The collaboration between these two guys will always bring amazing results! A very solid techno track which I love to play in my sets. It keeps the energy on a high level. A good choice on one of my favourite label, Uncage which is owned by Marco Faraone.”
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    Alter Ego – Rocker
    “Another older track, but I still have this on a lot, and play in my sets. Sometimes people forget about old track and when you play them, they all wonder what it is, especially the new generation, as maybe they weren’t old enough when it was released. So I love that they can discover ‘new’ music, but it’s actually a classic. This one will destroy any dancefloor. I still play it on vinyl, just feels better.”
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    Klaudia Gawlas & Gary Beck – Treasure
    “I included this track as it was such a nice opportunity to work with Gary Beck. He is such a legendary producer from Glasgow, and I always play at least one of his tracks in a set. We decided to make this collab together during the lockdown, and this is one of the 3 tracks on the release. I hope to do more with Gary one day.”
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    Carol McGiffin claims Loose Women runner was SACKED to make way for Phillip Schofield’s lover after he left This Morning

    CAROL McGiffin has claimed a Loose Women runner was sacked to make way for Phillip Schofield’s lover after he left This Morning.Being the first chat show host to speak out on the Schofield scandal, Carol spoke to Dan Wootton on the alleged “ITV cover up”.
    Carol McGiffin spoke to Dan Walker on the alleged ‘cover up’Credit: YouTube
    Appearing on GB News tonight she said another young male runner was dropped from his position when Schofield’s teen lover moved shows.
    Carol said: “Everybody was really quite upset about it because you know everybody loved him and he was a great runner.
    “One day I got a text message and it was from the young man in question and he said ‘I’m the new productions secretary at Loose Women’.
    “I thought, ‘hang on a minute what’s happened here’. I didn’t even know that he had gone at the time.
    “He was a great guy [and then] he disappeared.”
    The switch of daytime shows is understood to have happened in 2019.
    Carol said rumours were circulating at the time of the boy’s affair with Schofield, 61.
    It comes after Schofield has seen his career skydive in just a few weeks after he was forced out of This Morning before quitting ITV altogether.
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    Schofield exited the sofa after his brother Tim was outed as a peado.
    Just six days later, he made a bombshell revelation about an affair he had with a teen colleague while he was married.
    Schofield as since sat down with The Sun revealing the moment he participated in the affair.
    The former presenter insisted he had not groomed the boy.
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    I’m mentally utterly broken, if it hadn’t been for my daughters Ruby & Molly I wouldn’t be here, says Phillip Schofield

    OPENING the hotel door to greet Phillip Schofield, I am met by an ashen, shaking, near-skeletal man.He speaks so quietly, our camera microphone has to move closer to pick him up. This is a man on the brink.
    Phillip Schofield is man on the brink as The Sun interviews himCredit: Louis Wood
    Schofield reveals: ‘If it hadn’t been for my girls last week I wouldn’t be here’Credit: Getty
    Phillip has been hung online over news of his affair with a much younger colleague
    I ask him how he is? Wryly, he replies: “I am in a very bad way. Mentally, utterly, utterly broken.
    “And if it hadn’t been for my girls last week I wouldn’t be here.
    “I know I deserve it but they said, ‘Don’t you dare, we’re here to look after you’. I feel embarrassed and ashamed.
    “I have just felt like I was going lower and lower and lower and lower. And then, this bizarre, numbness washes over you, like a selfishness.
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    “I’ve had such a s*** couple of years, and with this ultimate final cataclysm, I looked ahead at nothing and the girls said, ‘Don’t, we are here to look after you. Don’t you dare do it on our watch’.
    “And that took me one step back and they won’t leave me alone. They were guarding me.”
    For the past two weeks, Phillip has been hung, drawn and quartered on social media over news of his affair with a much younger colleague.
    He cheated on his wife and repeatedly lied to family, friends and his ITV colleagues.
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    He is now off all social media and has deleted it all from his phone. So speaking from a hotel suite in Surrey, he says: “AI won’t kill off the human race — it is social media.
    “Because — what is the saying? — a lie goes all the way around the world before the truth has even put its boots on. It’s invention and it grows and grows and it is like cancer. Social media is cancer.
    “You can’t stop it. There are completely innocent people caught up in it, and they are then put on trial. It is what we have become. Who is our next victim? Bring them down, now someone else.
    “And that, to me, is the worst. There are good parts to social media but the bad parts are vicious, vile, deeply homophobic and so… It is a witch hunt.
    “It continues and continues. Do they not know there is a human being at the end of this? Do you actually want me to die? Is that the end game?”
    Today, Phillip is joined by his daughter, Ruby, who is clearly devoted to him.
    The award-winning presenter, a TV veteran of 41 years, approached The Sun via his lawyer about conducting this interview.
    While it is unquestionably the hardest 90 minutes of my professional life, afterwards, there is almost an element of catharsis.
    His demons have, in some way, been publicly exorcised. He has apologised, time and time again.
    Indeed, after speaking to me he chats, on camera, to the BBC’s Amol Rajan. He is desperate, it seems, to self-flagellate.
    He explains, candidly: “I know doing an interview with you is not going to make that stop.
    “It won’t stop it. I just want to do everything I possibly can to say it’s my fault; don’t go after him, don’t go after his friends, don’t go after his family. Nobody did anything wrong apart from me.”
    Phil, pictured with Clemmie Moodie, says: ‘There are completely innocent people caught up in it, and they are then put on trial’Credit: Louis Wood
    The star adds: ‘I am not sleeping, I am not eating. There’s a lot of Southern Comfort’
    The shiny, happy, smiley Phillip Schofield of yesteryear has gone. In his place a shell of a man.
    “I am not sleeping, I am not eating,” he says. “There’s a lot of Southern Comfort.
    “My mind is in constant, utter turmoil. I think back to regrets, forwards to… What do I do now? What I am going to do now?
    “I do not think I will be able to walk down a street ever again. It is like everybody knows.
    “I am dressed like this because I haven’t been able to go home. I can’t go out. I don’t think a charity will want to be associated with me.
    “I got dropped by The Prince’s Trust, which I understand, but it broke my heart.
    “I’ve lost everything. It’s all gone. Telly was my safe space, the one thing I loved. Now I don’t know if I will ever work on telly again.
    “I don’t know what my identity is any more. I don’t know who I am now. What happens in six months time? What am I going to do?
    “I have the rest of my life now to try and plan for Steph and the girls, and hope that I can look after them.”
    Overnight, the star, a household name and one-time national treasure, feels he has lost everything.
    His huge salary has gone. He will not be suing ITV and is not demanding a settlement package.
    He says: “I think when you’ve caused this damage, you can expect nothing. It’s my fault. I completely understand.”
    He turns over his hands and shows off a collection of blisters and calluses — another physical sign of this ongoing saga. “I’ve been vaping, a lot,” he sighs.
    “I didn’t realise until suddenly it hurt, but I’ve been sitting looking up at the sky or out of the window, just staring into space.
    “I just sit on the sofa and stare. I realise by doing that, I’ve blistered both hands.”
    Someone else who has been hit incredibly hard is his mum Pat, 87.
    Earlier this month her youngest son, Timothy, 54, was sentenced to 12 years in prison.
    He was jailed for 13 years after he was found guilty of a series of child sex crimes. The abuse spanned three years, during which time the victim was a teenager.
    Timothy will serve two-thirds of his sentence before being released.
    The civilian police officer was convicted of causing a child to watch sexual activity and of engaging in sexual activity in the presence of a child.
    He was also found guilty of three counts of causing a child to engage in sexual activity and two of sexual activity with a child.
    In a victim impact statement, the boy told how he was left “bitter” and “numb to life” by the abuse.
    He said he felt like he was trapped in a loop of fear and anxiety that only ended when Timothy Schofield was arrested.
    The case has torn the Schofield family apart. Welling-up on talking about his mum, Phillip adds: “I had to go down to Cornwall to be with her for the sentencing.
    “Our family thing was always to buy fish and chips and go and sit on the headland. I picked my mum up and she went in to get the fish and chips and while she was getting it my phone rang.
    “It was my then manager, saying, ‘Mate I’m so sorry, it has become too loud for ITV. You will have to step down from This Morning.’
    “She said to me before I arrived ‘you’re not coming down with any bad news are you?’
    “She sat in the car and she was all happy to see me. Then she said, ‘Oh your face has changed. I said let’s go onto the headland. And I had to tell her. She is devastated.”
    He claims ITV has offered him therapy, but he is yet to accept.
    Instead, he is relying on his wife, daughters and friends. He has also been contacted, he says, by a raft of ex-colleagues offering support.
    “A friend said this to me today, ‘Remember, you are the person your friends know. The people who love you.
    “The people that have worked with you and love you from working with you. All of them.’
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    “You hope decent people don’t believe (the bad things) but at three in the morning, that is what keeps me awake.
    “Someone, a lovely man called Tony, walking me here today, said ‘You keep smiling’, but I just don’t know how.”
    Phil, a household name, feels he has lost everything overnightCredit: Rex
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    Holly, I’m so sorry I lied to you, says Phillip Schofield as he insists This Morning co-star knew nothing about affair

    FOR 14 years, they were the best friends of friends and TV brother and sister. Today, they no longer speak.Now, Phillip Schofield has apologised to his This Morning co-star Holly Willoughby for lying to her about his secret relationship — and for tainting her public image.
    Holly Willoughby has been spotted enjoying a day at the beach in PortugalCredit: Dan Charity
    Phillip says: ‘I’ve lost my best friend. I let her down (Holly). I let that entire show down. I let the viewers down’Credit: Louis Wood
    The former presenter stresses ‘Holly did not know (about the romance)’Credit: Rex
    In an interview with The Sun, he says the pair have broken all ­contact — and reveals it was his paedophile brother’s imprisonment that made her distance herself from the friendship.
    He says: “I’ve lost my best friend. I let her down (Holly). I let that entire show down. I let the viewers down.
    “Holly did not know (about the romance). And she was one of the first texts that I sent, to say, ‘I am so, so sorry that I lied to you’.
    “She didn’t reply and I understand why she didn’t reply, as well. So yeah. If anyone is in any way linking Holly to this; that is ­absolutely, wholly untrue.
    “I had no feud with Holly. She is my TV sister. But quite rightly, when I am in the middle of a s**t show with bad press over something where I have done nothing wrong — in fact, I did everything right — it’s a witch hunt. And that strips that (friendship) away.
    “Quite rightly, she is going to take a step back and think, ‘I have to step back from this’, and I understand that completely.
    “As we see now, this is a vicious game and the last thing you want is for something to stick on you.
    “It was becoming bigger than the people we had on the show. I understand that.”
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    Last month, The Sun revealed that the duo were “barely speaking”. Phillip admits this was the case but says he had no idea the news would be made public until it ran in this newspaper.
    So, did the pair speak privately in the immediate aftermath?
    He pauses before replying: “If you do this I want you to put these two bits together…
    “I utterly adore Holly but we didn’t talk about this. I love Holly and I get it. That was a shock (to read). I texted her and said, ‘Have you heard about this?’. And she said, ‘Yeah, I think the story’s been killed, I think it’s gone, it’s not going to run’. But it did, the next day.
    “The last time we had a conversation was when I texted Holly and said, ‘Don’t reply,’ — this was after the statement last week (defending This Morning from accusations of toxicity) — ‘Don’t reply, you’re probably not allowed to. But I am deeply, deeply sorry that I lied to you’.
    “And I am. It was the one secret in our sanctuary that was never mentioned.” One long-running rumour Phillip, 61, is keen to address is the idea he insisted on first billing as in ‘Phil and Holly’, rather than ‘Holly and Phil’. He said: “By the way, I don’t care which way around that is…”
    Phillip, who joined This Morning in 2002, remains passionately loyal to both the show and his former employees at ITV.
    But despite the furore over claims they jumped the queue to see the Queen lying in state last year, it was actually the conviction of his disgraced brother which drove them apart.
    Holly, however, was one of the first people he confided in after Timothy had confessed to his abhorrent behaviour. She was at the time, he says, incredibly supportive: “She was with me holding my hand every step of the way.”
    Yesterday, it emerged that ITV boss Carolyn McCall has been called to face MPs amid the ­ongoing This Morning furore.
    She has been called to give evidence to a parliamentary committee to answer questions about the broadcaster’s approach to safeguarding and complaint-handling following Phillip’s resignation.
    The chief executive will face questions from MPs on the This Morning row at the Culture, Media and Sport committee on June 14.
    Phillip says he is mortified by the latest twist in the sorry saga — and takes full responsibility. In addition, he says he is no longer in contact with anyone from ITV and has not spoken to Caroline since he was pushed out.
    “[News of the hearing] breaks my heart, he explains.
    “No, I don’t think it’s appropriate for me to call her, or for ITV to call me. I know the process that this has to go through. So I understand. I completely understand that. I have no bitterness towards ITV in the slightest.”
    He is adamant This Morning should not be axed in the wake of his deceit.
    For the first time in our entire interview he becomes incredibly punchy when I mention he and Holly, 42, have been accused of arrogance on the show floor.
    “How vile to say that we lorded it in that place,” he rages.
    “It couldn’t be more of a level playing field, a level family. I adore those people.
    “And I think to suggest anything otherwise is an agenda I don’t understand.
    “I don’t book the guests. Neither of us have any say in who comes on or what.”
    Tellingly, and sadly, Phillip repeatedly changes tense when discussing his old show. It is evident he cannot fathom a future without it, and without telly, full stop.
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    Ex-contributor Dr Ranj has hit out at the “toxicity” within This Morning. Phillip is quick to hit back. “There is no toxicity in that show,” he storms. “I walked in in the morning and went into the production room and sat down, we all had a chat about the weekend, or what we did the night before, and all having a laugh.
    “Then I’d go into my dressing room and write up the script, then go into the sanctuary which is make-up, and have a chat with everyone in there.”
    Holly has travelled to Portugal to try and escape the furore around recent revelations from her former co-hostCredit: Dan Charity
    With his career in tatters, he has decided to put the record straight by speaking to The SunCredit: Rex
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    Phillip Schofield reveals real reason he grew apart from Holly Willoughby and it wasn’t Queuegate

    PHILLIP Schofield has told how he will now be eternally mocked for the Queuegate scandal even though he warned to producers it was a mistake.He and Holly received a huge backlash after claims the pair “queue jumped” to see the late Queen lying in state last September.
    Phillip and Holly received huge backlash after claims the pair ‘queue-jumped’ to see the late Queen lying in state
    Phillip Schofield and Holly Willoughby were ‘shell shocked’ after the public hit out at the scandalCredit: Rex
    Holly later did an on-air apologyas thousands of memes flooded the internet mocking the pair.
    But despite the furore over claims they jumped the queue to see the Queen lying in state last year, it was actually the conviction of his disgraced brother Timothy – which drove them apart.
    He said: “So we are forever now (associated)… it doesn’t matter now because I’m not going to go out any more … but forever now, you go to the butchers and someone says, ‘Oh do you want to (skip ahead)…?’ ‘No, no, I’ll stand here.’ I’m serious.
    “I don’t ever throw anyone under the bus, but I have a very good instinct for these things and I knew it was a bad thing to do.
    “But there is no reason that the justification that was given to me, shouldn’t have been true.
    “You are journalists, loosely, and you are covering a massive story. Therefore I want you to cover it. As indeed, 700 other journalists did exactly the same thing.
    “There was no jumping of the queue. We went and spoke to everyone in the queue. We went out and met everyone in the queue then walked all the way around the building, and went into the press centre with your accreditation.
    “That got messed up because the production team didn’t want to give either of our emails out, so they used work emails which obviously didn’t match up with who we are.”
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    Of the photographs of the pair which quickly went viral – Holly in a covid face mask and somber Phil with a face of thunder – he adds: “My face (says it all) – ‘we shouldn’t be here’.
    “It didn’t feel right. What was sad was it wrecked what I wanted to do on the day. I wanted to go and stand at the end of my road and watch her go past as she went down to Windsor.
    “Within seconds there was the photo of the two of us. Why us? Why not all of the other people? Why single us out?
    ”Because you’re Holly and Phil, I suggest?
    “Not any more”, he deadpans back.
    He continues: “We were texting each other backwards and forwards afterwards. I said to Holly, ‘I knew I should have gone with my gut,’ and she said, ‘I know’.“
    But we were shell-shocked, the both of us, completely shell-shocked by the reaction.
    “What are the two things you don’t screw up? The Queen and a queue”
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    Phillip Schofield relives agonising moment he told his heartbroken wife about affair with This Morning colleague

    PHILLIP Schofield told how he broke news of his relationship to loyal wife of 30 years Steph, whom he has still not divorced.The dad-of-two said: “She got off a plane and I phoned her up and texted  saying, ‘I need to talk to you’.
    Phillip Schofield had been married for 27 years when he came out as gay but his wife, Stephanie Lowe, vowed to stand by himCredit: Getty
    Phillip Schofield hands the runner a Christmas drink in 2016
    “She called back and I told her. She was very, very angry.”
    Phil said she had believed him when she asked previously about the rumours and he told her: “It’s untrue, it’s b*****ks.”
    He added: “She is very, very angry but we spoke today. And my daughters were unbelievable.
    “They are without question, our greatest asset. I always say our, but from a father’s point of view, my greatest asset are my girls.”
    The Sun has not paid for the bombshell interview in which he: 

    DETAILS his six-month romance, insisting: “I know the photos of us circulating on Twitter look shocking, but I’m not a groomer”;
    REVEALS he is still friends with the ex show runner, 30 years his junior who we are not naming, and says their romance only started once the man was 20 after “something just happened between us that changed everything”;
    OFFERS a huge apology to former co-host Holly Willoughby for ruining their TV partnership, and confirms the pair no longer speak;
    ADMITS he has not watched a single This Morning since his resignation, so missed a slightly-stilted tribute from stand-ins Alison Hammond and Dermot O’Leary. He says: “I can’t watch it. I’m not sure I’ll ever be able to again”.

    Schofield has admitted lying to cover up the affair which sparked a tumultuous week, with ITV bosses being accused of hiding the facts.
    With his career in tatters, he has decided to put the record straight by speaking to The Sun and the BBC’s Amol Rajan.
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    Addressing lurid allegations and rumours posted online, Schofield insisted his former boyfriend did not receive a penny in “hush” money.
    He said no non-disclosure agreement was ever signed that would have prevented the man from speaking out.
    Yesterday it was confirmed that ITV boss Dame Carolyn McCall has been summoned to Parliament to be grilled on safeguarding. The Culture, Media and Sport Committee wants to quiz her next Wednesday.
    And Holly was seen for the first time after spending the week hiding out at her £8million Algarve bolthole with family.
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    Phillip Schofield describes moment relationship with young runner started in dressing room after This Morning episode

    SHELLSHOCKED Phillip Schofield has told for the first time how his brief relationship with a young runner started in his dressing room after a show.The star is at pains to publicly apologise to his former lover but desperately wants to set the record straight on how the pair met — to counter the gossip about their affair.
    Phillip Schofield, 61, tells for the first time how his relationship with the young runner started in his dressing roomCredit: Louis Wood
    The star is at pains to publicly apologise to his former lover, pictured the pair with Holly WilloughbyCredit: Enterprise
    Schofield, pictured with wife Stephanie Lowe, revealed he became friends with the young colleagueCredit: Getty
    Schofield, 61, revealed he worked with the colleague for a short ­period and had become friends.
    He said: “Then one day something happened that just changed it. That is the moment I look back on, and regret so deeply.
    “It was in my dressing room in 2017, it was a consensual moment, it was mutual.
    “It was not a love affair, it was not a relationship, we were not boyfriends; we were mates.
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    “It wasn’t feelings (I was getting), it was more like mates: excitement.
    “I was really struggling with my sexuality at that time in the build up to what happened.
    “But over a period of time it happened maybe five or six times.
    “We just didn’t think anyone knew, there was no lying, we thought, stupidly, that nobody knew.
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    “You look at yourself. I was unprofessional, one time, in a 41-year career.
    “I know I did that. And there is no excuse. I won’t put forward an excuse. No one did anything wrong apart from me.”
    Phil is at lengths to point out the chronology of events, and make clear the pair were not in touch romantically or inappropriately after they first communicated when the boy was just 15.
    He also cites homophobia for some of the criticism levelled at him over the age gap.
    Phil, pictured with Clemmie Moodie, says: ‘I’m sorry. And I will forever be sorry. I will die sorry. I am so deeply mortified’Credit: Louis Wood
    Addressing the elephant in the room, I asked Phil, a behemoth of daytime television, if he abused his position of power. It was not an easy conversation.
    “I did not, I did not (groom him),” he sighed, visibly shaking.
    “There are accusations of all sorts of things. It never came across that way (an abuse of power) because we’d become mates. I don’t know about that.
    “But of course I understand that there will be a massive judgment, but bearing in mind, I have never exercised that anywhere else.
    “I assume somebody, somewhere, assumed something was going on, correctly, and didn’t say anything.
    “At the time I did not think about it possibly ruining my career. I really probably only thought about it when I saw the rumour mill, and saw it growing.
    “Then I saw the link with the drama school photo all those years before, and thought, ‘This looks shocking’.
    “But I didn’t lie to protect my career, he didn’t want his name in public. He wanted his own life.
    “The lies grew bigger and bigger and bigger. It was affecting both of us deeply. It got to the stage where it was out of control and for whatever cost, it had to stop.
    “I have massive guilt, and regret. I’ve made a mistake, I’ve had an affair at work.”
    Furiously vaping, he added: “I think my greatest apology must go to him. It has brought the greatest misery into his totally innocent life, his totally innocent family, his totally innocent friends.
    “It has brought the greatest grief to them. I haven’t spoken to him since this s**t show kicked off, but when this was all beginning to get out of control, I paid for his lawyers to independently work on his behalf.
    “I am deeply sorry and I apologise to him because I should have known better. I should have acted the way I have always acted. I should not have done it.
    “I’m sorry. And I will forever be sorry. I will die sorry. I am so deeply mortified.”
    In the last week several lurid claims and social media rumours have emerged. Many, Phil says, are categorically untrue.
    He insisted that his ex-boyfriend did not receive a penny in “hush money”, nor was an NDA ever signed preventing him from speaking out.
    He also says he did not use ITV money to pay for taxis for the man — “I don’t have an ITV account”.
    While Phillip did use a South East London apartment, he stressed that the couple only used it once.
    He added: “And there was talk of the apartment in television ­centre. We never visited that place because we had a tenant in it.
    “But we had another place in South East London. I was there and he phoned up and said, ‘Do you fancy a beer?’ And he came over and we had a beer.”
    For the past four years there has been wild speculation about ­Phillip’s private life.
    He came out live on air and in a Sun interview in February 2020 — and was met with a wave of support, including from his family.
    ­However, he has been dogged by rumours concerning his affair with the runner, who subsequently moved to Loose Women.
    He had followed the teenager back on Twitter at the behest of a mutual friend, he says.
    Phil offered occasional career advice as he wanted to break into TV, and helped land him work experience on This Morning.
    However, he insists that he did not get him a job.
    He said: “I told him, ‘I think I can get you an interview but I can’t get you the job. If you get in and screw it up I can’t save you.
    “He got the job on his own ­merits and started working on the show.”
    He added: “Attraction is attraction. It’s no different in the gay world as it is in the heterosexual world or in the lesbian world.
    “There shouldn’t be a difference. This is where homophobia comes in.
    “We did first meet when he was 15, I visited the drama school (he attended).”
    Phillip said when they first got together he was maybe mid-50s adding: “So yeah, there’s a ­difference.
    “It’s accepted by ­Leonardo DiCaprio, it’s not accepted if it’s in the gay world.
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    “People are attracted to, or have relationships — wise or unwise — with people of different ages.
    “Yes, I see what it looks like from the outside world. I just want to apologise to everyone.”
    The star says his affair with the young male started in his dressing room: ‘It was in my dressing room in 2017, it was a consensual moment, it was mutual’
    Phil offered occasional career advice to the young man as he wanted to break into TVCredit: Rex More